Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

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Postby Kary English » Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:15 am

Martin L. Shoemaker wrote:The secret pattern... There is no pattern... ...probably applies less to selection and judging. But man, it would drive me crazy trying to puzzle it out!


Ain't nuthin' wrong with a little crazy now and then. Besides, have you ever thought about what exactly we writers do?

* We sit alone in our houses and write for hours on end about stuff that isn't real.
* We have conversations in our heads, and sometimes out loud, between multiple personalities.
* We will argue to the death the consistency of made-up worlds.
* We fall in love with fake people, or we hate them. And that's when we're not cooking up ever more sadistic ways of torturing them.
* We go on the internet to research disturbing things, such as just how does one make ricin from fruit pits, or can a body shiver while it's unconscious from hypothermia, or just how long would it take someone to bleed out from a gunshot to the abdomen?

Yeah, crazy's got nuthin' on us.
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Re: Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

Postby Dustin Adams » Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:16 am

I learned who all four of my judges were, but I didn't hear how any of them felt toward my story in particular.
However, unless all of them voted me precisely -fourth- place, then some voted lower, and some voted higher.
Knowing the top 3 are published, I'd be jazzed to discover who voted mine either 1st 2nd or 3rd place.
Sadly, I'll probably never know.
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Postby Martin L. Shoemaker » Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:32 am

Dustin Adams wrote:I learned who all four of my judges were, but I didn't hear how any of them felt toward my story in particular.
However, unless all of them voted me precisely -fourth- place, then some voted lower, and some voted higher.
Knowing the top 3 are published, I'd be jazzed to discover who voted mine either 1st 2nd or 3rd place.
Sadly, I'll probably never know.


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Postby Rebecca Birch » Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:33 am

Kary James wrote:
Martin L. Shoemaker wrote:The secret pattern... There is no pattern... ...probably applies less to selection and judging. But man, it would drive me crazy trying to puzzle it out!


Ain't nuthin' wrong with a little crazy now and then. Besides, have you ever thought about what exactly we writers do?

* We sit alone in our houses and write for hours on end about stuff that isn't real.
* We have conversations in our heads, and sometimes out loud, between multiple personalities.
* We will argue to the death the consistency of made-up worlds.
* We fall in love with fake people, or we hate them. And that's when we're not cooking up ever more sadistic ways of torturing them.
* We go on the internet to research disturbing things, such as just how does one make ricin from fruit pits, or can a body shiver while it's unconscious from hypothermia, or just how long would it take someone to bleed out from a gunshot to the abdomen?

Yeah, crazy's got nuthin' on us.


But we're never gonna survive unless we get a little crazy ...

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Postby E.CaimanSands » Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:44 am

Kary James wrote:Ain't nuthin' wrong with a little crazy now and then.

* We have conversations in our heads, and sometimes out loud, between multiple personalities.


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Postby Strycher » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:38 am

Rebecca Birch wrote:But we're never gonna survive unless we get a little crazy ...


In a world full of people there's only some want to fly
Isn't that crazy, isn't that crazy, isn't that crazy, isn't that crazy?

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Postby Patrick S. McGinnity » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:50 am

I find it really interesting that, at least according to the small sample Duotrope provides, notifications (rejections at least) were following a generally chronological path through submissions. The "Responses have been received for submissions sent as recently as..." date has steadily progressed by a couple of days per batch, until finally reaching Dec. 31st yesterday.

Of course, there are blips even in the Duotrope responses, and I'm sure there are glaring exceptions that are not on Duotrope at all, but still, it makes you think. As a Dec. 31st submitter myself, I got a bit nervous yesterday, even though I know that drawing conclusions from such a small sample is not terribly good science. Or math.
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Postby Patrick S. McGinnity » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:13 am

Gaaghh! Why does WOTF have to send out announcements like this right now. Don't they know it could be dangerous to some folks' health?



Find Out Who is Performing at This Year's Achievement Awards

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Subject : Find Out Who is Performing at This Year's Achievement Awards

Thu, Mar 29, 2012 03:05 PM

Hello Everyone!

This year we have an amazing line up of celebrity performers at the 28th Annual Achievement Awards. See the invite below for the updates.

If you are close to Los Angeles and California, please RSVP right away—with your guests! That is all we require—names on the guest list—there is otherwise no entry fee.

I look forward to hearing from you.

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Re: Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

Postby MJNL » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:22 am

Ok, I've officially received 7 invites to the awards ceremony.

Is it me, or isn't that overkill?
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Postby Martin L. Shoemaker » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:25 am

MJNL wrote:Ok, I've officially received 7 invites to the awards ceremony.

Is it me, or isn't that overkill?


I suspect that now that they're livecasting it online, they have the same thinking that goes on with the Oscars: they want to avoid empty seats. It looks bad for the camera.
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Re: Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

Postby Isto » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:26 am

wotf017 Didn't get that invitation. Ohio isnt' any further away from CA than MIchigan.
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Postby Martin L. Shoemaker » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:31 am

Isto wrote:wotf017 Didn't get that invitation. Ohio isnt' any further away from CA than MIchigan.


The emailing is spotty, which may be another reason for the multiple waves.
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Postby Kary English » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:43 am

I've not been invited either. It's OK. I know when I'm not wanted*. *sniff*

(*it just makes crashing all the more fun)
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Postby E.CaimanSands » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:54 am

Martin L. Shoemaker wrote:
MJNL wrote:Ok, I've officially received 7 invites to the awards ceremony.

Is it me, or isn't that overkill?


I suspect that now that they're livecasting it online, they have the same thinking that goes on with the Oscars: they want to avoid empty seats. It looks bad for the camera.


I've lost count how many invites I've received (and, I joke not, I've received another while writing this post wotf006 ). At one point I got a different (non-graphics) one asking me to reply even if I was only watching it online, so I did reply in the end. Got a nice email back from Joni. So I guess she really did want me to respond, cluttering her inbox even more than it already must be, even though I live on the other side of the planet and was highly unlikely to turn up in person. wotf017 (I'm a gator you know, my RSVP social skills probably need work.) I can't imagine why anyone would want me there anyway if they are keen to fill seats. I'd likely clear the auditorium in an instant.
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Postby Patrick S. McGinnity » Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:09 pm

Isto wrote:wotf017 Didn't get that invitation. Ohio isnt' any further away from CA than MIchigan.


Plus there's no giant lake in the way.
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Postby dantzel » Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:25 pm

Patrick S. McGinnity wrote:I find it really interesting that, at least according to the small sample Duotrope provides, notifications (rejections at least) were following a generally chronological path through submissions. The "Responses have been received for submissions sent as recently as..." date has steadily progressed by a couple of days per batch, until finally reaching Dec. 31st yesterday.

Of course, there are blips even in the Duotrope responses, and I'm sure there are glaring exceptions that are not on Duotrope at all, but still, it makes you think. As a Dec. 31st submitter myself, I got a bit nervous yesterday, even though I know that drawing conclusions from such a small sample is not terribly good science. Or math.


Maybe keep in mind that some Dec 31 submissions have already been read and rejected, ie mine.
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Postby Patrick S. McGinnity » Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:31 pm

Yours case is, in fact, one of those that makes me leery of reading much into this data.
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Postby hazlett » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:27 pm

AlistairKimble wrote:Hey everyone, luckily I've been free of rejectomancy and duotropery this past week (at a Kris and Dean workshop, and those typically devour all your time), but I'll add my commiserations for those who were taken out in that last round.

But, I'm still in for Q1 as well.

And if we're adding to the pile of past performance, I'll toss my very mixed bag into it:

1x Finalist
1x HM
A boat load of Rs.


Thanks, Alistair. I included you in the mix. Since many of us are curious about the correlation of rejections with more recent submission dates, I've included the most recent version of the "survivors" list along with my DOR (Date of Record) or submission date. Feel free to add yours if you're curious.

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"BLACK SIX, This is BLACK ONE, SITREP follows. Prepare to copy, OVER..."

"BLACK ONE. BLACK SIX. SEND IT..."

"BLACK ONE PLATOON has TWO-NINE survivors. I SAY AGAIN, TWO-NINE survivors.."

"I COPY TWO-NINE survivors. How many combat veterans remain, OVER?"

"BLACK SIX. BLACK ONE. ONE-FIFE combat vets remain...List follows, OVER."

"SEND IT."

"BLACK SIX. BLACK ONE. Prepare to copy:

Tina (gower21)
Corbin (1xF, 2xSF, 7xHM)
Francis Bruno (1xSF)
Amanda McCarter (1xSF, 1xSHM, 5xHM)
Martin Shoemaker (1xF, 1xSF, 2xHM)
Izanobu (1xSF, 2xSHM, 6xHM)
Grayson (3xHM)
Marina (2xF, 2xHM)
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Jennifer Hicks (1xSF, 1xSHM, 6xHM)
Justin Key (medicalauthor)
Alex Kane (3xHM)
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hazlett, DOR: 17 December 2011
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greenroom (1xHM)
Isto
Preston (2xHM)
Patrick S. McGinnity
Serrain
MontyApollo (1xHM)
gwasch
Dame
AlistairKimble (1xF, 1xHM)"

"BLACK ONE. BLACK SIX. Duotrope scouts report 58 KIA out of ~100 friendlies in Alpha Company....BREAK....S2 projects 90 total KIA....BREAK...Battalion estimates 32 more KIA in the company...BREAK...Expect SEVEN-SIX percent KIA rate in what's left of your platoon...BREAK...Or TWO-TWO more casualties...BREAK...Recommend vets pair with newbies and watch their sixes. ACKNOWLEDGE, OVER..."

"BLACK SIX. BLACK ONE. ACKNOWLEDGED. OVER..."

"BLACK ONE. BLACK SIX. Charlie Mike. BLACK SIX OUT."
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Postby Martin L. Shoemaker » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:38 pm

Hey! You people BROKE Duotrope! The whole site is generating ASP.NET errors up the yingyang! Stop that!

Oh, it might do you all some good if you can't refresh the WotF listing for a while; but the Submission Tracker and List of Pieces are broken, too!

What if I get home tonight and find a rejection package from F&SF? How do I record it?

What if I get home tonight and finish my work in progress? How do I add it to my list?

People, people, people... Give the poor server a rest, would ya?
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Postby E.CaimanSands » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:46 pm

Ah, sorry, I must have trampled it with my big, lumbering, gator feet. Couldn't resist a last look before I snuck off to bed... but yes, it's broke. wotf005

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Postby morshana » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:14 pm

I didn't get an invitation either... (to the awards ceremony, not a tromping party on Duotrope)
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Postby Isto » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:51 pm

E.CaimanSands wrote:Ah, sorry, I must have trampled it with my big, lumbering, gator feet. Couldn't resist a last look before I snuck off to bed... but yes, it's broke. wotf005

wotf043


My printer died tonight as well.... how did you do that?? It always seems to happen when I'm up against a deadline.
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Postby Kary English » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:29 pm

I bought a spare toner cartridge and an extra case of paper last weekend to prevent the most obvious targets for Murphy's Law.
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Postby izanobu » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:33 pm

Yeah, I'm getting a million invitations and announcements as well. I really wish they would finish up results so I can just unsubscribe. But I don't want to accidentally block results and I'm not sure if unsubscribing would do that. wotf004

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Postby E.CaimanSands » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:44 am

Isto wrote:
E.CaimanSands wrote:Ah, sorry, I must have trampled it with my big, lumbering, gator feet. Couldn't resist a last look before I snuck off to bed... but yes, it's broke. wotf005

wotf043


My printer died tonight as well.... how did you do that?? It always seems to happen when I'm up against a deadline.


Not guilty, that was probably the octopus that lives down here...

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Postby george nik. » Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:21 am

izanobu wrote:Yeah, I'm getting a million invitations and announcements as well. I really wish they would finish up results so I can just unsubscribe. But I don't want to accidentally block results and I'm not sure if unsubscribing would do that. wotf004

I was wondering why many of us got a million invitations and many none, and then I was wondering from what Annie wanted to unsubscribe.
So I just subscribed to the Newsletter. See if this will get me an invitation. (Not that I can afford to go, anyway, but it would be nice to be invited).


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Postby izanobu » Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:27 am

Just before dawn is false dawn, when the sky generally turns greyish. It's actually pretty light. I never got the point of that quote, since the darkest hour is actually long before dawn. wotf008

I also can't wait for the day when I can ignore this section of the forum. I intend to still lurk around a bit and keep up with what peeps are up to, but the results forum will so hold nothing for me. wotf004

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Postby steffenwolf » Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:49 am

izanobu wrote:Just before dawn is false dawn, when the sky generally turns greyish. It's actually pretty light. I never got the point of that quote, since the darkest hour is actually long before dawn. wotf008

I also can't wait for the day when I can ignore this section of the forum. I intend to still lurk around a bit and keep up with what peeps are up to, but the results forum will so hold nothing for me. wotf004


You have seen the new Results-only threads subforum, right? Nice quick one-stop shop for checking results, and because it's results-only it's easy to set up notifications without getting inundated.
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Postby george nik. » Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:50 am

izanobu wrote:I also can't wait for the day when I can ignore this section of the forum. I intend to still lurk around a bit and keep up with what peeps are up to, but the results forum will so hold nothing for me. wotf004

It's a jibber-jabber results forum, Annie, so it might always hold something for you. wotf008
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Re: Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

Postby izanobu » Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:26 am

Really, I could just stay out of this forum period. I mean, I'll get my own personal results via email. Somehow this stupid contest has always been the one thing I can't fire and forget like my other submissions. I agonize every quarter as results time comes around, for no good reason at all.


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