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Re: Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

Postby Kary English » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:36 am

@ Corbin

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Postby Corbin Maxwell » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:42 am

Kary James wrote:@ Corbin

*uploads large foofy latte - unless you're one of those who take it black and bitter in a styrofoam cup, in which case you can have that, instead*



Well believe it or not, I'm actually doing some work for a change. So I'm not focused on WOTF, focused on doing job stuff (which you know what that is).
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Postby greenroom » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:10 am

Corbin Maxwell wrote:Well believe it or not, I'm actually doing some work for a change. So I'm not focused on WOTF, focused on doing job stuff (which you know what that is).


This would be somewhat more believable if you weren't posting about it on the WotF forums :)
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Postby Grayson Morris » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:12 am

permanentnovice wrote:Sorry to crush all the speculation.
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Re: Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

Postby Corbin Maxwell » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:19 am

greenroom wrote:
Corbin Maxwell wrote:Well believe it or not, I'm actually doing some work for a change. So I'm not focused on WOTF, focused on doing job stuff (which you know what that is).


This would be somewhat more believable if you weren't posting about it on the WotF forums :)



That I'm doing work? Well I am, plus posting. I'm just more focused on work than the forum. Or at least I should be.
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Re: Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

Postby Corbin Maxwell » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:27 am

Kary James wrote:@ Corbin

*uploads large foofy latte - unless you're one of those who take it black and bitter in a styrofoam cup, in which case you can have that, instead*



I don't drink foofy latte stuff. Just coffee with cream and sweet and low.
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Re: Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

Postby Isto » Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:43 pm

permanentnovice wrote:All,

I couldnt' find my receipt for my entry and I'm pretty used to getting Rs by now, so I sent Joni an email to make sure they got my entry. This is what she said:

Dear Joe,

It is still being judged. You are in there just fine. Notices go out every week and this week more go out
tonight. It will take another month or so to get it all out.

Best,

Joni Labaqui


Thought you might like to know. Sorry to crush all the speculation.
Joe


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Re: Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

Postby AMcCarter » Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:19 pm

For Q4, the semi-finalists were not sworn to secrecy and they are notified after the finalists. So, I imagine, if we don't know the semi's yet, we probably don't know the finalists yet.


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Postby greenroom » Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:57 pm

I keep alternating between two thoughts:

Is it nighttime yet?

and

Please don't let me get an email!

This isn't healthy!
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Postby steffenwolf » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:36 pm

Well, crud. Form rejection arrived in my email today (for my e-submission). The form rejection doesn't insert author name or story title.

I'm a little extra bummed about this one because I thought this one a better fit than most of my submissions to WotF.
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Postby Martin L. Shoemaker » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:46 pm

steffenwolf wrote:Well, crud. Form rejection arrived in my email today (for my e-submission). The form rejection doesn't insert author name or story title.

I'm a little extra bummed about this one because I thought this one a better fit than most of my submissions to WotF.


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Postby Jennifer Hicks » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:54 pm

Incoming! Duck and cover!

(New rejections are showing up on Duotrope.)

Edited to say: I didn't see steffenwolf's post. Sorry to hear that.
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Postby Corbin Maxwell » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:58 pm

Jennifer Hicks wrote:Incoming! Duck and cover!

(New rejections are showing up on Duotrope.)

Edited to say: I didn't see steffenwolf's post. Sorry to hear that.



I just checked the email, I'm still in. Of course there's still plenty of hours left today to take a direct hit and get blasted.
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Postby AMcCarter » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:05 pm

steffenwolf wrote:Well, crud. Form rejection arrived in my email today (for my e-submission). The form rejection doesn't insert author name or story title.

I'm a little extra bummed about this one because I thought this one a better fit than most of my submissions to WotF.


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Postby greenroom » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:06 pm

Corbin Maxwell wrote:I just checked the email, I'm still in. Of course there's still plenty of hours left today to take a direct hit and get blasted.


I haven't received an email yet either, but I doubt the emails are over for the day. There are only two replies on duotrope, and one here. If all the results are really going to be completed in the next 4 weeks, I'd expect that much larger waves would need to be sent out.
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Postby francisbruno » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:45 pm

Sorry to hear it guys. wotf009
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Postby anarresti » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:54 pm

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Postby E.CaimanSands » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:01 pm

Commiserations, David.

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Re: Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

Postby gower21 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:07 pm

Maybe, hopefully we'll see some HM's next week? Seems like we should be close. Not that any of it matters for me as a paper sub it just seems like my own personal fate will be a wildcard.

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Postby Jennifer Hicks » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:00 pm

gower21 wrote:Maybe, hopefully we'll see some HM's next week? Seems like we should be close. Not that any of it matters for me as a paper sub it just seems like my own personal fate will be a wildcard.


I'm surprised we haven't heard any reports of HMs. I would have expected them to start trickling out a couple weeks ago. Maybe Joni is waiting to send out all responses that aren't straight rejections at the same time. Except the winners, of course.
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Postby Martin L. Shoemaker » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:19 pm

Jennifer Hicks wrote:I'm surprised we haven't heard any reports of HMs. I would have expected them to start trickling out a couple weeks ago. Maybe Joni is waiting to send out all responses that aren't straight rejections at the same time. Except the winners, of course.


I could see that. Maybe even somehow tie it into the PR efforts for the gala, or shortly after.
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Postby preston » Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:57 pm

[Maybe Joni is waiting to send out all responses that aren't straight rejections at the same time. Except the winners, of course.[/quote]

Has this ever even happened before? Seems to me it's always been waves of rejections with little sprinklings of HMs mixed in. I don't think there has ever been a wave of pure HMs. One complete wave of HMs...hmmm...I hope so. Then a wave of SHMs, SFs and finally...finalists. Those would be some beautiful waves. I hope to ride one of them.
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Re: Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

Postby Strycher » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:16 am

In my experience there's been very little consistency. I remember quarters where we had several batches of rejections and then the HMs came at the end. There was at least one quarter when the HMs notifications didn't come out until after all of the results had been posted to the blog. Back when they were nothing but paper subs, the rejections would trickle in even more sporadically (I assume because, even though they went out in batches, shipping times vary, so if you lived in California you got your mail from the contest before I did on the East coast).

Rejectomancy with the contest is particularly difficult, because their methodology seems to change each quarter. (Or at least it's tweaked each quarter.)

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Postby Martin L. Shoemaker » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:28 am

Strycher wrote:Rejectomancy with the contest is particularly difficult, because their methodology seems to change each quarter. (Or at least it's tweaked each quarter.)


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Postby Martin L. Shoemaker » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:42 am

Wow! And we thought our wait was bad... Somebody on Duotrope last ight reported a 522 day form rejection. Talk about your outliers...

(Yes, I suspect somebody mis-keyed something there. Just trying to lighten the tension here.)
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Re: Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

Postby joshpotter » Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:33 am

Did anyone else get an email fron Joni saying their entry did not win in the 1st quarter of 2012? I didn't even enter in the first quarter, hmmm. I did go back and chec to make sure.
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Anybody notice the above posted in the Jibber Jabber Q2 forum? Another tidbit of interesting data for our Rejectomancy...

(And it's a crazy day at work, so if somebody already commented on this above and I missed it, I apologize!)
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Postby MJNL » Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:43 am

Martin L. Shoemaker wrote:Wow! And we thought our wait was bad... Somebody on Duotrope last ight reported a 522 day form rejection. Talk about your outliers...

(Yes, I suspect somebody mis-keyed something there. Just trying to lighten the tension here.)



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Re: Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

Postby Strycher » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:09 am

Martin L. Shoemaker wrote:
Strycher wrote:Rejectomancy with the contest is particularly difficult, because their methodology seems to change each quarter. (Or at least it's tweaked each quarter.)


The secret pattern is... There is no pattern...


I was pretty much just supplying data that makes that point.

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Postby Martin L. Shoemaker » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:22 am

Strycher wrote:
Martin L. Shoemaker wrote:
Strycher wrote:Rejectomancy with the contest is particularly difficult, because their methodology seems to change each quarter. (Or at least it's tweaked each quarter.)


The secret pattern is... There is no pattern...


I was pretty much just supplying data that makes that point.


Yep. But no matter how many times it's made, Rejectomancy will continue unabated.
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Re: Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

Postby Kary English » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:51 am

Here, it's my turn to stir the pot...

See that 143-day rejection on Duotrope? It's all out of order with the rest of them, which have been more or less proceeding from early entries to late. I wouldn't be surprised if that was:

A) an Honorable Mention, or
B) an early paper sub
C) an almost HM that was put aside, reconsidered, then rejected (no clue if that actually happens)

Arguing against the paper sub hypothesis is the fact that the reject came on a day where we know there were email rejections, too. One would think snail mail rejects might show up a day or three *after* the main wave.

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