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Postby Martin L. Shoemaker » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:30 pm

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Postby hazlett » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:32 pm

Martin L. Shoemaker wrote:Thanks! I knew we could count on you! (I used to know this stuff. Really, I did...)


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Postby jdbrink » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:44 pm

Brad R. Torgersen wrote:Well done!

http://www.prweb.com/releases/Writersof ... 619640.htm

Jeremy Brink from Texas
Holly Heisey from Arizona
Marina J. Lostetter from Arkansas
Sean Monaghan from Manawatu, New Zealand
Tina Smith from California
Martin Shoemaker from Michigan
Stephen Sottong from California
Chris Stamp of Perthshire, United Kingdom

wotf006



There it is!
Though I'd prefer not to be noted as "from Texas" -- I just happen to LIVE in Texa now. I'm an Ohioan, darn it...
Although I suppose they could say I was from Mars and it'd be okay in this instance.

CONGRATS EVERYONE!

where in Michiagn are you from, Martin? I'm from the Toledo area, just south of the border.
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Postby klaatu » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:48 pm

You wanna know something?

This is the first quarter I've actualy been really jealous of the finalists - almost annoyed at myself. Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled for those of you who have made finalist, but I'm really annoyed I'm not on that list. Which, in a way, is really silly as I knew months ago I was rejected.

Maybe I've had a few tastes of success recently, and I'm starting to get *that* hunger.

I just hope that the new judge likes my writing style.....



gower21 wrote:
Strycher wrote:
gower21 wrote:I'd love to have it all turn around and this be my year for luck, but so far today I've not seen any gumdrops falling from the sky...so I hope results do not come today.


It's cool, Tina. I had a dream last night that I was at the awards ceremony and you won first place. wotf011


Uh oh.... who's dream shall win? Steve or Krystal? tune in on page 150 when we find out!



It won't be mine, I dreamt I was there also....




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Postby jdbrink » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:50 pm

WBLedbetter wrote:Woooo hoooooo! CONGRATULATIONS to everyone!

What's this? Another Texan in the running! wotf010 wotf009


I'm not a Texan! (not that there's anything wrong with that.... well, yeah, there probably is.)
I just happen to reside there against my will. 98 degrees today. going to get worse before it gets better.
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Postby jdbrink » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:59 pm

hazlett wrote:
Martin L. Shoemaker wrote:Thanks, Beez! It's still possible for all 3 winners to be non-forumites. I'm sure Hazlett could add some mathematical rigor to that statement.


Assuming that 5 of the finalists are "forumites", the probability that exactly 3 winners will be non-forumites is exactly 1.7857%.

Here's how the math shakes out.

The total number of distinct permutations of k people in a group of n people is = n! / (n-k)!. Therefore, in a group 8 people, there are 336 distinct permutations of 3 people. 336 becomes our denominator.

The total number of distinct permutations of 3 people in a group of 3 people is 6. 6 becomes our numerator.

Hence the probability of non-forumites winning is 1.7857%, which incidentally is the same probability that "well-known" forumites like Martin, Tina, and Marina win together.

Congrats Martin, Tina, and Marina!

Congrats to Holly and Jeremy as well. As you can see, I included you both the "forumite" camp.

Congrats to the 3 non-forumites as well!

My work is done here. wotf009



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Postby WriteToLive » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:03 pm

jdbrink wrote:I'm from the Toledo area, just south of the border.


WAIT! WHOA! HOLD THE FLIPPIN PHONE! ANOTHER TOLEDOAN IN THE HOUSE! wotf009

Where in Toledo do you live/are you from?

Brad R. Torgersen wrote:Tina Smith from California


You really owe your hubby a plaque which says HOTY if you win for getting that thing in on time.

Brad R. Torgersen wrote:Martin Shoemaker from Michigan


Congrats, Martin. Crossing my fingers you finish high.

And, of course, congrats to everyone else.
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Postby jdbrink » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:05 pm

klaatu wrote:You wanna know something?

This is the first quarter I've actualy been really jealous of the finalists - almost annoyed at myself. Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled for those of you who have made finalist, but I'm really annoyed I'm not on that list. Which, in a way, is really silly as I knew months ago I was rejected.

Maybe I've had a few tastes of success recently, and I'm starting to get *that* hunger.

I just hope that the new judge likes my writing style.....

Steve



Steve, don't beat yourself up over that. I haven't officially lost yet and i'm already jealous of everyone who's been through this multiple times and just waiting their turn in the winners' circle.
You can't help your feelings, just your actions, and I'm sure these folks wouldnt all be your friends if you acted badly.

Not that I'm Oprah or anything, I'm just saying.
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Postby jdbrink » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:06 pm

WriteToLive wrote:
jdbrink wrote:I'm from the Toledo area, just south of the border.


WAIT! WHOA! HOLD THE FLIPPIN PHONE! ANOTHER TOLEDOAN IN THE HOUSE! wotf009

Where in Toledo do you live/are you from?

I'm from Fremont/Clyde region, about an hour east of Toledo. Went to school at BGSU (the first time -- well, technically second time)
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Postby Martin L. Shoemaker » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:08 pm

jdbrink wrote:where in Michiagn are you from, Martin? I'm from the Toledo area, just south of the border.


West Michigan, halfway between Grand Rapids and Kalamazoo. But a lot of my career has revolved around Ann Arbor; and my best friend and his family used to live in Sylvania, so I know that northern fringe of Toledo a little. I think in a pinch I could still find the Tony Packo's on Monroe. (Yes, another obscure M*A*S*H reference!)
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Postby WriteToLive » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:10 pm

jdbrink wrote:
klaatu wrote:You wanna know something?

This is the first quarter I've actualy been really jealous of the finalists - almost annoyed at myself. Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled for those of you who have made finalist, but I'm really annoyed I'm not on that list. Which, in a way, is really silly as I knew months ago I was rejected.

Maybe I've had a few tastes of success recently, and I'm starting to get *that* hunger.

I just hope that the new judge likes my writing style.....

Steve



Steve, don't beat yourself up over that. I haven't officially lost yet and i'm already jealous of everyone who's been through this multiple times and just waiting their turn in the winners' circle.
You can't help your feelings, just your actions, and I'm sure these folks wouldnt all be your friends if you acted badly.

Not that I'm Oprah or anything, I'm just saying.


I'd say I'm jealous since I got an R every time I submitted, but it's more the "Oh, why didn't I submit that piece to WotF first!" reaction instead of jealousy.

But, the one I'm working on for 3 is going to be rather interesting. Interesting indeed. wotf007
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Postby Martin L. Shoemaker » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:13 pm

Thanks, Michael!

jdbrink wrote:I'm from Fremont/Clyde region, about an hour east of Toledo. Went to school at BGSU (the first time -- well, technically second time)


Heh. And in other small world news... That best friend of mine who lived in Sylvania later moved to Bowling Green, where his wife, his father-in-law, and his brother-in-law all taught.
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Postby Martin L. Shoemaker » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:14 pm

klaatu wrote:Maybe I've had a few tastes of success recently, and I'm starting to get *that* hunger.


If it's a motivator, fantastic!
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Postby WriteToLive » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:21 pm

jdbrink wrote:
WriteToLive wrote:
jdbrink wrote:I'm from the Toledo area, just south of the border.


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Where in Toledo do you live/are you from?

I'm from Fremont/Clyde region, about an hour east of Toledo. Went to school at BGSU (the first time -- well, technically second time)


I'm in North Toledo, but could be close enough to call it Michigan (my backyard is 75 feet from the border).

I nearly went to BGSU when I was pursuing architecture. Then, I went to UT to get my degree in literature. Now, I'm in the MA Program for it.

Martin, Sylvania, eh? Really close to where I'm at.

But, the original Packo's isn't really on Monroe (it might be the second location, but I don't know if they have it anymore because the family's in a disupte with ownership). The original is on Front Street and Consaul (just across the river). That place has tons of character.
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Postby AMcCarter » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:26 pm

I think Martin is definitely up to be in Brad's position over the next couple of years.
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Postby Martin L. Shoemaker » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:41 pm

WriteToLive wrote:Martin, Sylvania, eh? Really close to where I'm at.


Yeah, 75 feet from the border is a lot like my friend's old place. I honestly think a good athlete (not me) could've thrown a ball from the roof of their house and landed it in Michigan. He worked in Ann Arbor, and his wife worked in Bowling Green, so they found a house JUST over the Ohio border (where the taxes where noticeably lower).

But, the original Packo's isn't really on Monroe (it might be the second location, but I don't know if they have it anymore because the family's in a disupte with ownership). The original is on Front Street and Consaul (just across the river). That place has tons of character.


Yeah, the place I visited was clearly just a branch in a strip mall. They tried to give it atmosphere, but I could tell it was all transplanted. But the food was good, and they had a picture of Jamie Farr on the wall, so it was good enough for me! I use it as a milestone because any deeper into Toledo than that, and I get lost.
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Postby Serrain » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:46 pm

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Postby klaatu » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:47 pm

jdbrink wrote:
Steve, don't beat yourself up over that. I haven't officially lost yet and i'm already jealous of everyone who's been through this multiple times and just waiting their turn in the winners' circle.
You can't help your feelings, just your actions, and I'm sure these folks wouldnt all be your friends if you acted badly.

Not that I'm Oprah or anything, I'm just saying.



LOL. Don't worry - as Martin said, it's a motivator more than anything else. I thought I was hungry for it before. I've just stepped up a level where I'm really hungry for it.


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Postby Martin L. Shoemaker » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:49 pm

AMcCarter wrote:I think Martin is definitely up to be in Brad's position over the next couple of years.


Thanks for the vote of confidence, Amanda! But I need to adopt Brad's work habits first.
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Postby gower21 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:50 pm

klaatu wrote:
jdbrink wrote:
Steve, don't beat yourself up over that. I haven't officially lost yet and i'm already jealous of everyone who's been through this multiple times and just waiting their turn in the winners' circle.
You can't help your feelings, just your actions, and I'm sure these folks wouldnt all be your friends if you acted badly.

Not that I'm Oprah or anything, I'm just saying.



LOL. Don't worry - as Martin said, it's a motivator more than anything else. I thought I was hungry for it before. I've just stepped up a level where I'm really hungry for it.


Steve


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Postby Martin L. Shoemaker » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:52 pm

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Postby WriteToLive » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:55 pm

Martin L. Shoemaker wrote:
WriteToLive wrote:Martin, Sylvania, eh? Really close to where I'm at.


Yeah, 75 feet from the border is a lot like my friend's old place. I honestly think a good athlete (not me) could've thrown a ball from the roof of their house and landed it in Michigan. He worked in Ann Arbor, and his wife worked in Bowling Green, so they found a house JUST over the Ohio border (where the taxes where noticeably lower).

But, the original Packo's isn't really on Monroe (it might be the second location, but I don't know if they have it anymore because the family's in a disupte with ownership). The original is on Front Street and Consaul (just across the river). That place has tons of character.


Yeah, the place I visited was clearly just a branch in a strip mall. They tried to give it atmosphere, but I could tell it was all transplanted. But the food was good, and they had a picture of Jamie Farr on the wall, so it was good enough for me! I use it as a milestone because any deeper into Toledo than that, and I get lost.


That's when you let your Toledo connection let you know how to get around. wotf011

Yeah, we're kind of like that, too. Good on property taxes, but our sales tax is higher. wotf017
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Postby klaatu » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:02 pm

gower21 wrote:You never know, Steve, that dream you had could come true. You'll just win in another quarter.



I dream, I hope.....


Then I write.

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Postby Rebecca Birch » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:07 pm

klaatu wrote:
gower21 wrote:You never know, Steve, that dream you had could come true. You'll just win in another quarter.



I dream, I hope.....


Then I write.

Steve


What he said.

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Postby s_c_baker » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:30 pm

hazlett wrote:
s_c_baker wrote:
hazlett wrote:A bunch of amazing math.

My work is done here. wotf009

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Postby gower21 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:39 pm

I just sent a letter to Chris Stamp in the UK. Hope I got the right one and *yeah* I googled and found someone!! Hope he comes and joins the party!

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Postby Beez » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:24 pm

gower21 wrote:I just sent a letter to Chris Stamp in the UK. Hope I got the right one and *yeah* I googled and found someone!! Hope he comes and joins the party!

A letter? As in, snail mail? People still use that?
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Postby gower21 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:40 pm

Beez wrote:
gower21 wrote:I just sent a letter to Chris Stamp in the UK. Hope I got the right one and *yeah* I googled and found someone!! Hope he comes and joins the party!

A letter? As in, snail mail? People still use that?


I meant an email. Wouldn't that be funny:

Dear Finalist!

Come join us for tea tomorrow at noon.

Signed,

Other Finalist

Except he'd get it a week after the date of the tea.

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Postby onelowerlight » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:47 pm

Congrats to all the finalists! It's been a fun ride. Best of luck in the final judging!


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