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Postby morshana » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:47 pm

austinDm wrote:Got my second personal from FFO.

The only problem with getting so many comments with a rejection is that now I need to decide whether it's worth the effort of revising or if I should trust the initial story and just send it out again. wotf005


Yay! (Which one is FFO? So hard to keep track of all these acronyms...)
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Re: Almost Success - The "Mixed Feelings" Thread

Postby austinDm » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:22 am

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austinDm wrote:Got my second personal from FFO.

The only problem with getting so many comments with a rejection is that now I need to decide whether it's worth the effort of revising or if I should trust the initial story and just send it out again. wotf005


Yay! (Which one is FFO? So hard to keep track of all these acronyms...)


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Postby preston » Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:46 pm

I heard back from Penumbra today. My Zombie story made it to "a later round." Yeah!!! wotf010 Not sure what that means. How many rounds are there? Unfortunately, I got edged out. No!!! wotf020 Oh, well, maybe next issue. Space Opera...hmm...
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Postby LDWriter2 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:50 pm

austinDm wrote:Got my second personal from FFO.

The only problem with getting so many comments with a rejection is that now I need to decide whether it's worth the effort of revising or if I should trust the initial story and just send it out again. wotf005



Not surprisingly you are doing better than I but as to what to do. Trust your instincts and just send it out again. I don't know how many times you have already revised but it could be you are close to too many. You can mess up your voice with too many.
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Postby LDWriter2 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:52 pm

preston wrote:I heard back from Penumbra today. My Zombie story made it to "a later round." Yeah!!! wotf010 Not sure what that means. How many rounds are there? Unfortunately, I got edged out. No!!! wotf020 Oh, well, maybe next issue. Space Opera...hmm...
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Postby s_c_baker » Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:49 pm

Shimmer editors wrote:This was haunting and darkly addictive, but I fear the fragments didn't serve to build any greater meaning in my mind by the time I read the last word. We love literary work, and your voice is definitely what we search for, but this one didn't coalesce into a strong enough plot for Shimmer. I was most enchanted with the second part, because I felt like I knew what was happening, so I could relax and enjoy your delightful prose.


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Re: Almost Success - The "Mixed Feelings" Thread

Postby E.CaimanSands » Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:41 pm

s_c_baker wrote:
Shimmer editors wrote:This was haunting and darkly addictive, but I fear the fragments didn't serve to build any greater meaning in my mind by the time I read the last word. We love literary work, and your voice is definitely what we search for, but this one didn't coalesce into a strong enough plot for Shimmer. I was most enchanted with the second part, because I felt like I knew what was happening, so I could relax and enjoy your delightful prose.


That's good, right? Right? wotf007


Good for Clarkesworld, probably. wotf007

I tend to get criticisms complaining of lack of plot too. My latest from Shimmer on what was practically a flash piece:

I would have enjoyed the story more with greater agency--that is specific actions on the part of your protagonist to drive the story toward resolution as part of a broader character arc. I has some memorable images, especially the ending, and I hope you find a good home for it soon.
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Re: Almost Success - The "Mixed Feelings" Thread

Postby morshana » Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:24 pm

s_c_baker wrote:
Shimmer editors wrote:This was haunting and darkly addictive, but I fear the fragments didn't serve to build any greater meaning in my mind by the time I read the last word. We love literary work, and your voice is definitely what we search for, but this one didn't coalesce into a strong enough plot for Shimmer. I was most enchanted with the second part, because I felt like I knew what was happening, so I could relax and enjoy your delightful prose.


That's good, right? Right? wotf007


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Postby Rebecca Birch » Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:36 pm

s_c_baker wrote:
Shimmer editors wrote:This was haunting and darkly addictive, but I fear the fragments didn't serve to build any greater meaning in my mind by the time I read the last word. We love literary work, and your voice is definitely what we search for, but this one didn't coalesce into a strong enough plot for Shimmer. I was most enchanted with the second part, because I felt like I knew what was happening, so I could relax and enjoy your delightful prose.


That's good, right? Right? wotf007


That's good! My last rejection from them said it was a good story, but it wanted to be a novel.

Given that the research I did for the story was supposed to be for my NaNo novel, they may well have a point. wotf007
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Postby LDWriter2 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:06 pm

s_c_baker wrote:
Shimmer editors wrote:This was haunting and darkly addictive, but I fear the fragments didn't serve to build any greater meaning in my mind by the time I read the last word. We love literary work, and your voice is definitely what we search for, but this one didn't coalesce into a strong enough plot for Shimmer. I was most enchanted with the second part, because I felt like I knew what was happening, so I could relax and enjoy your delightful prose.


That's good, right? Right? wotf007



As been said by others I think it sounds good.

Keep sending to them.
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Postby s_c_baker » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:10 pm

Mine was flash too, Elinor--and episodic to boot. wotf001
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Postby jkenton » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:03 pm

My first rejection, courtesy Penumbra's Space Opera call. But my story did make it to the final round, so I'm kind of tickled since it's my first submission to any magazine, ever. (My Q1 WoTF sub is technically my first submission to anything, anywhere.)

Hmmm...

Penumbra doesn't just say that to all the guys/gals, do they?

Still, final round on my first try? I shall now perform the dance of my people.

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Postby Fobok1 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:04 am

jkenton wrote:Penumbra doesn't just say that to all the guys/gals, do they?


Nope. I just got a rejection too and they specifically said it did not make it through to the final round. So, congratulations on making it that far, at least!
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Postby liz » Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:34 am

jkenton wrote:My first rejection, courtesy Penumbra's Space Opera call. But my story did make it to the final round, so I'm kind of tickled since it's my first submission to any magazine, ever. (My Q1 WoTF sub is technically my first submission to anything, anywhere.)

Hmmm...

Penumbra doesn't just say that to all the guys/gals, do they?

Still, final round on my first try? I shall now perform the dance of my people.

Which consists of sitting back and having a belt of sweet brandy.


That's great! Keep puttin' em out there wotf013

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Postby hazlett » Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:24 am

Got a rejection letter from F&SF signed by Gordon Van Gelder.

Should I read anything into that or not?
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Postby Rebecca Birch » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:14 pm

hazlett wrote:Got a rejection letter from F&SF signed by Gordon Van Gelder.

Should I read anything into that or not?


All I know is that it's on my writing bucket list. Congratulations!

Can I ask how long the response time was?
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Postby hazlett » Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:37 pm

Rebecca Birch wrote:
hazlett wrote:Got a rejection letter from F&SF signed by Gordon Van Gelder.

Should I read anything into that or not?


All I know is that it's on my writing bucket list. Congratulations!

Can I ask how long the response time was?


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Postby dantzel » Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:29 pm

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Postby E.CaimanSands » Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:05 pm

hazlett wrote:Got a rejection letter from F&SF signed by Gordon Van Gelder.

Should I read anything into that or not?


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Postby LDWriter2 » Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:25 pm

E.CaimanSands wrote:
hazlett wrote:Got a rejection letter from F&SF signed by Gordon Van Gelder.

Should I read anything into that or not?


Gator has turned suddenly very green, greener than usual that is. I think she's envious. As am I, I've never got one of those. wotf004



I have....of course that was way back before JJA started working with him. wotf011
Gordon was the reader at that time.


Even though I think I did get one after JJA started reading for him. The wording on the rejection was exactly the same as JJA's so I figured it was fluke.
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Postby dantzel » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:25 pm

I received a rejection from Asimov's today, and when I saw it in my inbox I said to my friend Megan (who I'm visiting in Canada for a week) "Oh okay, just got another rejection... oh! It's a personal!"

This was my rejected Q4, the longest short story I've ever written, about 9400 words. (My other 2 rejections from Asimov's were forms.) Sheila said it's 'nicely done, but not quite right' for her. So I need to get something else out, and soon, to make sure I catch her eye. I don't have anything ready to go, though, and the one I thought to send next is still at IGMS.

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Postby Strycher » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:40 pm

dantzel wrote:I received a rejection from Asimov's today, and when I saw it in my inbox I said to my friend Megan (who I'm visiting in Canada for a week) "Oh okay, just got another rejection... oh! It's a personal!"

This was my rejected Q4, the longest short story I've ever written, about 9400 words. (My other 2 rejections from Asimov's were forms.) Sheila said it's 'nicely done, but not quite right' for her. So I need to get something else out, and soon, to make sure I catch her eye. I don't have anything ready to go, though, and the one I thought to send next is still at IGMS.

So regardless, woot!


A personal from Asimov's nothing to shake a stick at. How many days, if you don't mind me asking?

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Postby dantzel » Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:36 pm

I never mind sharing. 47 days. Which is interesting, because remember how I made a mistake and accidentally submitted two stories really close to each other at Asimov's? The other story is at 61 days with no word yet. Odd, eh?

I'll say (though no one may care!) that the one that just got the personal is a better story, with characters that are definitely more fleshed out. The other story is a little piece of flash about a couple of feral cats, the descendants of space-faring cats who are trying to escape our world and get back to the stars. Fun, weird story, but it's kind of a hard sell. So despite nice words from Elise Tobler at Shimmer and Schubert at IGMS, I don't have high hopes.
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Postby austinDm » Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:58 pm

dantzel wrote:I never mind sharing. 47 days. Which is interesting, because remember how I made a mistake and accidentally submitted two stories really close to each other at Asimov's? The other story is at 61 days with no word yet. Odd, eh?


I'd check your status on the 61 day one. The response to my last Asimov's sub must have gotten lost in the ether. I never got an email about it, but when I checked through their submission system, it was marked as rejected.

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Postby dantzel » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:06 pm

Good thought. I checked and it said Under Review, so it looks like I'm still good.
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Postby E.CaimanSands » Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:49 am

dantzel wrote:I received a rejection from Asimov's today, and when I saw it in my inbox I said to my friend Megan (who I'm visiting in Canada for a week) "Oh okay, just got another rejection... oh! It's a personal!"

This was my rejected Q4, the longest short story I've ever written, about 9400 words. (My other 2 rejections from Asimov's were forms.) Sheila said it's 'nicely done, but not quite right' for her. So I need to get something else out, and soon, to make sure I catch her eye. I don't have anything ready to go, though, and the one I thought to send next is still at IGMS.

So regardless, woot!


Very nice. It gives me hope that it was a WotF rejection too! wotf004

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Re: Almost Success - The "Mixed Feelings" Thread

Postby morshana » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:20 am

Great news Hazlett and Dantzel!
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Re: Almost Success - The "Mixed Feelings" Thread

Postby jkenton » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:46 am

And the Penumbra Near Miss is now a Clarke'sworld Near Miss. Still, knowing that my first submission anywhere ever (outside the pending WoTF submission) is some quality work does wonders for me. Knowing the story hit the top 6% of their current crop sweetens the brew considerably. It's nice to know I'm on the write...er, right track at least.

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Postby morshana » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:09 pm

That's awesome, jkenton!
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Postby liz » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:48 pm

jkenton wrote:And the Penumbra Near Miss is now a Clarke'sworld Near Miss. Still, knowing that my first submission anywhere ever (outside the pending WoTF submission) is some quality work does wonders for me. Knowing the story hit the top 6% of their current crop sweetens the brew considerably. It's nice to know I'm on the write...er, right track at least.


Congrats! wotf010


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