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Re: Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

Postby s_c_baker » Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:48 pm

I actually like math. I'm just bad at it.
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Postby bobsandiego » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:01 pm

s_c_baker wrote:I actually like math. I'm just bad at it.

I like the products of math (see what I did there?) but I eludes me in execution.

side note Q1 29? The last time I ranked higher then R....
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Postby storysinger » Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:23 am

5000 seems to be a long way off. wotf004
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Postby Isto » Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:14 am

storysinger wrote:5000 seems to be a long way off. wotf004


We just aren't trying hard enough! Want to hear something funny about my SF story? In an attempt to insert positive energy (or maybe a positive psychological tweak), I named several of its characters from the forum. Since I can't enter it again, I see no harm in my admission. So I give a thank you and a shout out to Austin, Bob, Kary, and Martin for making an appearance. No comment on who's in my next one! wotf019
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Re: Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

Postby Ishmael » Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:06 am

Well I mean to say, you can't go around calling a narrator Ishmael, can you? You see Herman Melville began this fashion and I continued it with a splendid R back in volume 29 (qv) just before I joined this forum. Now a revisited version of this exceptionally fine story currently appears under the name of Ishmael on Baen's Bar.

Just sayin'

You know, if anyone would like to help me out with a crit or something?
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Re: Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

Postby Ishmael » Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:08 am

Call me Ishmael

But your name isn't Ishmael.

So what, neither is yours. Though it probably should be. He's more famous than you are.

I knew that, Long John.

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Postby Isto » Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:20 am

Ishmael wrote:Well I mean to say, you can't go around calling a narrator Ishmael, can you? You see Herman Melville began this fashion and I continued it with a splendid R back in volume 29 (qv) just before I joined this forum. Now a revisited version of this exceptionally fine story currently appears under the name of Ishmael on Baen's Bar.

Just sayin'

You know, if anyone would like to help me out with a crit or something?
wotf007


I thought that might be just a bit obvious. wotf011 I'm always up for a good critique! Not sure about 'or something".
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Re: Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

Postby austinDm » Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:08 pm

Isto wrote:
storysinger wrote:5000 seems to be a long way off. wotf004


We just aren't trying hard enough! Want to hear something funny about my SF story? In an attempt to insert positive energy (or maybe a positive psychological tweak), I named several of its characters from the forum. Since I can't enter it again, I see no harm in my admission. So I give a thank you and a shout out to Austin, Bob, Kary, and Martin for making an appearance. No comment on who's in my next one! wotf019


I seem to be having a bunch of characters named after me. I'm a dying spaceship in one of Martin's stories.

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Postby Isto » Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:22 pm

austinDm wrote:
Isto wrote:
storysinger wrote:5000 seems to be a long way off. wotf004


We just aren't trying hard enough! Want to hear something funny about my SF story? In an attempt to insert positive energy (or maybe a positive psychological tweak), I named several of its characters from the forum. Since I can't enter it again, I see no harm in my admission. So I give a thank you and a shout out to Austin, Bob, Kary, and Martin for making an appearance. No comment on who's in my next one! wotf019


I seem to be having a bunch of characters named after me. I'm a dying spaceship in one of Martin's stories.


You are the main character in mine... I'm sorry for all the mental anguish I've put you through, but you'll be happy to know that you and Kary get together and start a family. Bob is a wealthy but kind landowner. And Martin... well, Martin is just trouble! wotf013
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Postby bobsandiego » Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:46 pm

Isto wrote:
austinDm wrote:


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I seem to be having a bunch of characters named after me. I'm a dying spaceship in one of Martin's stories.


You are the main character in mine... I'm sorry for all the mental anguish I've put you through, but you'll be happy to know that you and Kary get together and start a family. Bob is a wealthy but kind landowner. And Martin... well, Martin is just trouble! wotf013[/quote]
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Postby Isto » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:06 am

bobsandiego wrote:
Isto wrote:
austinDm wrote:


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I seem to be having a bunch of characters named after me. I'm a dying spaceship in one of Martin's stories.


You are the main character in mine... I'm sorry for all the mental anguish I've put you through, but you'll be happy to know that you and Kary get together and start a family. Bob is a wealthy but kind landowner. And Martin... well, Martin is just trouble! wotf013

Kind?
Well I suppose it is fiction,[/quote]

Well, kind in that you help Kary keep her sanity by allowing her to milk your cows for free. I DID say you were wealthy, didn't I? Ironically, the Bob in my story protested being termed 'kind' as well! wotf015
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Postby bobsandiego » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:42 am

off topic - not that THIS thread has a topic:

As some of you know I signed with the Virginia Kidd agency in June. So while Will shops my novel around looking for a suck---editor in love with it, I started a new one.

I asked him if I should write the next book in the series or something else and he told me to write whatever inspires me.
Okay then an SF/noir it is.
Only it took me awhile to get actually writing. I stumbled into a new psychological block to writing.
All my life I had written for myself, knowing I'd send it off and in all likelihood some slush reader would send it back to me. This was different. This time I knew that there was an industry professional waiting on *my* stuff. Someone who said he was looking forward to reading it.
*gulp*
Performance Pressure.
I was actually scared to start work. I did a lot fo worldbuilding. A lot of research. I even wrote a short set in the deep history of the novel. I was doing anything to avoid writing that novel.
I finally buckled down and started it. I'm about 20% done on the first draft and the performance pressure seems gone, but guys and gals, be warned about that beast. It may be lurking in your head too.
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Postby kentagions » Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:52 am

Thank you Bob,
I've wondered about this. I used to coach bowling and taught a couple of mental clearing and concentration techniques. I explained that they were good for getting over failure, but better for sustaining success. My girls would come to me after a great game and say, 'Mr. Jones, I was going nuts when I had four strikes in a row. Then I took a deep breath and went to my happy place, and got three more.'

The term 'happy place' might not wash, here, but I meant it as a joke for the girls' high school team. The point is to remember a time when you were perfectly content. Go there; feel that contentment. Then come back and visualize only the things needed for success (whether ideal delivery mechanics or proper ball placement). They learned positive forward thinking and won every match. A year later, My daughter won the Pepsi USBC Girls Handicap Gold Division National Championship.

Writing is a bit more complicated than athletics, but it's good to be prepared for the pressure to rise with success.
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Re: Jibber Jabber - Q1 - 29

Postby Ishmael » Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:19 pm

There is a great deal to be said for working on your own mental attitude. The interesting thing is, however you develop positivity, it has the effect of hardwiring your brain towards more positivity. Literally. “Neurons that fire together wire together,” as psychiatrists say in their knowing way. It goes right back to Aristotle, who was a great believer in the power of habituation; the more you do something the easier and more natural doing it becomes.

Sadly, I suspect it works for negativity too.

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Postby s_c_baker » Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:38 pm

I suffer from Eeyore syndrome (as my mother calls it). What happy place? wotf007
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Postby Ishmael » Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:00 am

s_c_baker wrote:I suffer from Eeyore syndrome (as my mother calls it). What happy place? wotf007


Eeyore is a philosopher of great profundity, but so far as I am aware he never won WotF.

Lao Tzu is usually translated The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

I understand a more correct translation to be Even a thousand mile journey must begin from where you stand.

But in the original Irish it reads If I were going to Dublin, I wouldn't start from here, I'd start from where you are.

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Postby Holly Heisey » Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:44 am

I like happy places! wotf007

I think performance anxiety and impostor syndrome go hand in hand, though. Stupid, nasty brain weasels. Almost every time I do an illustration job, the process goes something like this:

THIS IS FUN! They're going to pay me to have fun!>Oh hey look, the possibilities>Oh god its awful they're going to pay me to make something awful and other people will see it and see how awful it is>(here I usually need to set a timer to get myself to work)>Oh wow, I just needed to tweak one thing, now it's flippin BRILLIANT!>I'm a genius!>Oh god I hope they like it

I followed a similar trajectory when I did my IGMS rewrite, and super sweated over the line edits. Maybe it's just a side effect of being creative?

I haven't had this (too much) in the big novel sense, though. I've had it in trickles working on Wattpad, though, especially when someone gives a glowing comment. Or a not-so-glowing comment. Then I feel like the next chapter has to make up for it (and I think I'm getting better at ignoring that feeling?).

In any case, glad you're working past it, Bob!

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Postby Strycher » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:23 am

Holly Heisey wrote: Maybe it's just a side effect of being creative?


I think it might be a side effect of being creative where other people can see you.

For me, writing a story I know will never see the light of day is a completely different experience.

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Postby storysinger » Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:50 am

Lately I find myself reading the story I'm writing to myself. Does anyone else do that? wotf017
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Postby amoskalik » Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:04 am

storysinger wrote:Lately I find myself reading the story I'm writing to myself. Does anyone else do that? wotf017


YEs, I read my story out loud as part of the polishing process. It really helps readability with regards to word choice and sentence structure.
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Postby Kary English » Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:10 am

Me, too. I always do a read-aloud as part of the final polish.
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Postby Ishmael » Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:13 pm

Hah! Herself is back and it's almost Th.....

Time to break out the brownies and tequila?

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Postby Isto » Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:03 pm

Isto wrote:
Ishmael wrote:Well I mean to say, you can't go around calling a narrator Ishmael, can you? You see Herman Melville began this fashion and I continued it with a splendid R back in volume 29 (qv) just before I joined this forum. Now a revisited version of this exceptionally fine story currently appears under the name of Ishmael on Baen's Bar.

Just sayin'

You know, if anyone would like to help me out with a crit or something?
wotf007


I thought that might be just a bit obvious. wotf011 I'm always up for a good critique! Not sure about 'or something".



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Postby Strycher » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:03 am

Text to speech software (some free versions available for Apple products at least) is good for a final read out loud pass too. The mechanical voice really makes those nitpicky typos stand out.

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Postby Rebecca Birch » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:54 am

Strycher wrote:The mechanical voice really makes those nitpicky typos stand out.


It really does. And makes invented names very . . . interesting. wotf004
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Postby Ishmael » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:29 am

You see, I did not know such a thing existed. I just downloaded a version that works happily on Windows. A revelation. Thank you.

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Postby bobsandiego » Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:15 am

Rebecca Birch wrote:
Strycher wrote:The mechanical voice really makes those nitpicky typos stand out.


It really does. And makes invented names very . . . interesting. wotf004


Not just invented names. If you use non-western European names it can be very amusing.
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Postby ThomasKCarpenter » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:36 am

The thread was getting lonely.
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Postby katsincommand » Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:51 am

I STOMP ON THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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